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Urban Downfall
Location: Montréal - Qc Gender: Male Total Likes: 538 likes
| | | Re: Decommissioned Power Plants? < Reply # 2 on 1/14/2019 2:13 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Look in the news if it was decomissionned, then google maps. Wach for cars in their parking lot, if there is none it's a good sign. If you know there is security, that means you always have a step ahead them. You know they are there, they don't. Go scout by night before, find/do your entry. Either you do it by night or comeback the morning after all planned up knowing where to enter. I live in canada and come a lot to the US so it's always a little bit of a gamble, but 99% of the time, you can get in, depend on how intense you are and how bad you want it. Have basic tools. (unscrew boardings or wathever is imo OK if you put it back after) Don't scout with tools, leave them in a bush or something until you are sure it's 'clear'. It's not because you didn't see pictures online that no explorers have been there. Big places like powerstations, people want to keep them off the radar. I had mostly good luck, and some bad, it's part of the game. Don't stress too much and do 1000 negative scenario in your head. Stay focus.
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| Aran
Location: Kansas City Gender: Male Total Likes: 1847 likes
Huh. I guess covid made me a trendsetter.
| | | Re: Decommissioned Power Plants? < Reply # 7 on 1/14/2019 4:39 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by ClementRSedona It's not because you didn't see pictures online that no explorers have been there. Big places like powerstations, people want to keep them off the radar.
| Yep. They can be done, sometimes even without scouting and only a few rumors of what's in store. You may have to go at night, and it may take hours to sneak past security (electronic, guards, or both), but rarely is a powerplant so heavily secured that access is impossible if you're patient and determined enough. That being said, most explorers will not post what they find or even acknowledge the location's existence. Decommissioned powerplants are the kind of critical infrastructure that probably tends to make local cops... tense about trespassing- especially since they often operate under a different set of trespassing laws. Not to mention the likelihood of a scrapper wrecking the place if they find it. Power plants are a high risk, high reward explore where the risk only grows exponentially if it ever ends up online.
| "Sorry, I didn't know I'm not supposed to be here," he said, knowing full well he wasn't supposed to be there. |
| Aran
Location: Kansas City Gender: Male Total Likes: 1847 likes
Huh. I guess covid made me a trendsetter.
| | | Re: Decommissioned Power Plants? < Reply # 14 on 2/3/2019 4:27 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Dee Ashley It's also worth noting that many (US) states have stricter laws regarding trespassing on infrastructure and/or superfund sites. Texas is one of those states that will enhance the offense to a Class A Misdemeanor if you are charged with trespassing on one of the aforementioned sites.
| Yeah. To quote Wisconsin Legislature 943.14, which is the law handling trespassing on energy provider property: Wisconsin Legislature 943.14 Section 1b: “Energy provider property" means property that is part of an electric generation, distribution, or transmission system or part of a natural gas distribution system and that is owned, leased, or operated by an energy provider. | and Wisconsin Legislature 943.14 Section 2:Whoever intentionally enters an energy provider property without lawful authority and without the consent of the energy provider that owns, leases, or operates the property is guilty of a Class H felony. | Reading the rest of section 1 indicates that so long as the power company owns, leasing, or uses the property for generation or transmission, trespassing on that property is a felony. If the plant itself is decommissioned but the power transformer on site is still in use, it's a felony. If the entire property is long since abandoned and owned by someone else, the law is a little less clear. This goes even further with nuclear power plants. Unlike coal or natural gas plants, Wisconsin law is clear and unconditional: if it's a nuclear power plant, trespassing is always a felony. Doesn't matter who the owner is, doesn't matter if it's decommissioned, doesn't matter if every inch of the property has been shut down for decades: it's still a felony. Unlike normal abandonments power plants are a case where you go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200, they won't go away after seven years, and you'll have to explain them to potential employers for the rest of your life. So make sure to do your legal research before attempting one. That's why you won't often see people post stuff online about power plants they may have explored. Exploring places such as abandoned houses and factories is the kind of thing police might be willing to look past, but posting photos of decommissioned power plant explorations is the kind of thing that might make them sit up and take notice.
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| "Sorry, I didn't know I'm not supposed to be here," he said, knowing full well he wasn't supposed to be there. |
| Dee Ashley
Location: DFW, Texas Gender: Female Total Likes: 1378 likes
Write something and wait expectantly.
| | | | Re: Decommissioned Power Plants? < Reply # 17 on 2/4/2019 10:59 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Aran
Yeah. To quote Wisconsin Legislature 943.14, which is the law handling trespassing on energy provider property:
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Reading the rest of section 1 indicates that so long as the power company owns, leasing, or uses the property for generation or transmission, trespassing on that property is a felony. If the plant itself is decommissioned but the power transformer on site is still in use, it's a felony. If the entire property is long since abandoned and owned by someone else, the law is a little less clear. This goes even further with nuclear power plants. Unlike coal or natural gas plants, Wisconsin law is clear and unconditional: if it's a nuclear power plant, trespassing is always a felony. Doesn't matter who the owner is, doesn't matter if it's decommissioned, doesn't matter if every inch of the property has been shut down for decades: it's still a felony. Unlike normal abandonments power plants are a case where you go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200, they won't go away after seven years, and you'll have to explain them to potential employers for the rest of your life. So make sure to do your legal research before attempting one. That's why you won't often see people post stuff online about power plants they may have explored. Exploring places such as abandoned houses and factories is the kind of thing police might be willing to look past, but posting photos of decommissioned power plant explorations is the kind of thing that might make them sit up and take notice.
| A felony? Ouch. There is no such thing as felony trespassing in Texas criminal law, but there are obviously ways around that fact if they really want to get you (or you did something really stupid in addition to trespassing).
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