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TaRaShRat
Location: Pacific northwest - Washington State Total Likes: 13 likes
Ham op - covert entry specialist - climb/rap cert'd
| | | Re: Sharing Location Maps < Reply # 69 on 5/10/2023 10:29 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by IJustWannaSee 47.020080,-122.901858 Despite the patrols and cameras, there is a wonderful brewery to visit near Tumwater where the patrols are pretty chill and let people go with a warning. Come with nothing that could raise suspicion in the eyes of the patrols. While it was being restored somone lit it on fire
| Annnnnnnnnnnnnddd This is why we can't have nice things I'm going to really try and not repeat anything that has already been said in this thread, but we had a saying about hikes around here that effectively said "If you walk more then six miles into the woods, there's not a person that will give you trouble." (For context, there has been a recent trend of annoying, unprepared foreign tourists coming to the PNW to hike and Ski and it generally kills / commercializes good spots) The truth is, the internet, much like a hike you can drive into and walk for 10 minutes, requires no effort. That inherently attracts lazy, and shitty people. What this site is really good for, or what it should be used for, is getting your crew together, and sharing the pictures of your daring exploits. Urbex should be hard. It should be dangerous. It should be inherently unsafe. It should be an adventure that the stories are told of for years to come. Treasure maps are supposed to be hard to read, not offer turn by turn navigation. Do I want to see your maps? Hell yes I do! But I'd rather meet the man who made it, not walk in to a scrapped out shell. All i can say is there was a time when that brewery had nor cameras nor rotating security patrols, and for that site it's closed to the public entirely because of stupid people. Short of commando inserting yourself with a zodiac from the other side of the river, you're not getting in there unnoticed.
| What the raccoons know: Whole world is garbage- Garbage is delicious |
| Aran
Location: Kansas City Gender: Male Total Likes: 1839 likes
Huh. I guess covid made me a trendsetter.
| | | Re: Sharing Location Maps < Reply # 73 on 6/10/2023 8:05 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I used to be really into the idea of trying to share my finds with the community and creating community maps, and to an extent I believed that the UER Database and other similar maps were a fairly trustworthy resource. I wanted to help the community by adding my finds to the Database, so that my work could help other explorers and leave my mark on the urbex community in a positive way. Perhaps I was an optimist, or maybe I was just naïve. The incident with AdventureCrimedisabused me of that notion. Avatar-X's stance on the matter was pretty much "I don't really care, and if you didn't want people stealing your photos and publicly blowing your spots you shouldn't have put them on the Database." Not an exact quote, but close enough. In fact, from my understanding of the situation, the only reason there was any kind of action against AdventureCrime was because the moderator team pushed for it- Av didn't want to do anything at all about it, and when he finally caved he only revoked AdventureCrime's FM status instead of banning him. It got me thinking. Were all my contributions to the Database just putting my hard work into the hands of untrustworthy people who would sell it for clicks? Why should I entrust my discoveries to a database managed by someone who doesn't care if they get abused? Was I really aiding the community at all, or just giving pins to folks who would ruin them? I'm still not sure about the answers to those questions, but the fact I had to ask them at all completely sapped any motivation to create new Database entries. I'll update existing ones, but I haven't actually added anything new since that thing with AdventureCrime happened. I'm not sure if I ever will.
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