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Personally, I love the shots, but I am not trained, I'm self-taught. That's only a good thing to a point. I can easily get these shots again if there is something that stands out. All criticism is welcome, and appreciated!

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P.S. The watermark will be going away.




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The colors and lighting are great throughout.

#1 - Try correcting for lens distortion in Photoshop, or positioning yourself more to the right. It looks like the subject is curving away from you.

#3 - The subject appears to be out of focus.

#4 - I guess I see what you're going for, but I'd still probably put the hangar in focus, or skip that subject altogether.

Also, that watermark. Either get rid of it entirely, or make it MUCH smaller and partially transparent. Edit: Ninja'd, nevermind this.



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The colors and lighting are great throughout.

#1 - Try correcting for lens distortion in Photoshop, or positioning yourself more to the right. It looks like the subject is curving away from you.

#3 - The subject appears to be out of focus.

#4 - I guess I see what you're going for, but I'd still probably put the hangar in focus, or skip that subject altogether.

Also, that watermark. Either get rid of it entirely, or make it MUCH smaller and partially transparent. Edit: Ninja'd, nevermind this.


Exactly why I love fresh eyes! I never really noticed that on #1, but now it's obviously leaning funny and it's going to give me a headache if I keep looking at it... I DO lens correction, so I don't know what actually happened there... Coulda forgot. In #4, I think I was more fascinated with the cracking paint than the key subject. ADD... Squirrel... :/
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This is neat. I really like the idea of re-visiting old shots with a more skilled hand.




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The watermark is fine but best to put it in a standard place on the image.

They seem underexposed.
Watch your WB as that seems off too.
Personally I like to see more in the frame and better composition.
Use the rule of thirds when composing an image.
https://digital-ph...om/rule-of-thirds/
Be careful with lines; try to frame them into a near corner when possible. As in #2, pan back and line up the ceiling/wall line with the corner(s).

#1 is shot too high and isn't squared off.

Not all subjects make good keepers; learn which ones to pass by.
Spend more time on good subjects and take multiple shoots from different angles/heights.
What looks good to the eye may not in an image.
Learn to see as the cam views it.
This done the hard way by exactly what you're doing now

Read as many tutorials as possible and learn your equipment inside out. If you haven't, read the cam manual cover to cover.
Learn to f/ sweet spots for your lens and try to use them when possible.

In low light shoots use a red laser pointer for easy AF lock ons.
Going full manual on the cam gives you more control especially with exposure.
Remember you have control over the metering options as well. Many times using spot metering you can take a few readings including the focal point of the shot and dial the exposure into a compromise for the best overall exposure that's suits your vision of the composition rather than the cams arbitrary metered judgement.

Manual focus however doesn't always work better than AF, if you use AF right.
Lock up the AF point where you want it and hold it with the shutter release then frame/compose the shot.




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The watermark is fine but best to put it in a standard place on the image.

They seem underexposed.
Watch your WB as that seems off too.
Personally I like to see more in the frame and better composition.

Not all subjects make good keepers; learn which ones to pass by.
Spend more time on good subjects and take multiple shoots from different angles/heights.

Read as many tutorials as possible and learn your equipment inside out. If you haven't, read the cam manual cover to cover.
Learn to f/ sweet spots for your lens and try to use them when possible.

In low light shoots use a red laser pointer for easy AF lock ons.



ALL of that was great advice, thank you. The quoted points above, however, are especially true. It definitely goes to show one of the MASSIVE benefits to getting education in this field. I still, for whatever reason, have the hardest time understanding the aperture. I most often shoot in shutter priority for that very reason.
I can't remember if I balanced out the whites in post, but I'm assuming not. I DO go a bit further than usual with blacks, but now that I look at what you're saying, the coloring/EXPOSURE/contrast is a bit off... Actually, they're f*#king bland.
And the laser pointer is a great idea!!!!!!!! I have been using a flashlight, but I have found it to be too bright most of the time for details.
Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it. I haven't really looked through the manual at all (<--FAIL), and I really should. Definitely putting that on my to-do list for tonight.




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This is neat. I really like the idea of re-visiting old shots with a more skilled hand.


I just want to be as good as I can and, luckily, this place is hidden in plain sight (as most are) not even a 10 minute drive away. I thought the place was a bit boring until reading some of the advice on here, so I'm all excited to go back




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ALL of that was great advice, thank you. The quoted points above, however, are especially true. It definitely goes to show one of the MASSIVE benefits to getting education in this field. I still, for whatever reason, have the hardest time understanding the aperture. I most often shoot in shutter priority for that very reason.
I can't remember if I balanced out the whites in post, but I'm assuming not. I DO go a bit further than usual with blacks, but now that I look at what you're saying, the coloring/EXPOSURE/contrast is a bit off... Actually, they're f*#king bland.
And the laser pointer is a great idea!!!!!!!! I have been using a flashlight, but I have found it to be too bright most of the time for details.
Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it. I haven't really looked through the manual at all (<--FAIL), and I really should. Definitely putting that on my to-do list for tonight.


By reading the manual you will learn a lot about your cam. Canon prints pretty descent manuals.
By reading in depth cam reviews you can learn more.

AP mode is most useful for action shooting.
Using it for low light stills is screwing up the images needlessly.
If shooting near wide open you also lose your depth of field, bad if this isn't your goal.

Most lens aren't their sharpest wide open, one exception is the Cannon 70-200 f/2.8 L which is sharpest at f/2.8, it's a beautiful freak.
Generally most lens are sharpest around f/5.6 but each lense is unique with its own characteristics:
http://www.slrgear...ws/index.php/cat/2

Consider shooting RAW images if you aren't already.
Pros; up to 3 f/stops more exposure/WB correction and full post editing cam picture options.
Cons; more editing time, RAWs take up much more memory space on card. Take longer for the cam to process which is only an issue if using in high burst frame mode like for action shots.

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I just want to be as good as I can and, luckily, this place is hidden in plain sight (as most are) not even a 10 minute drive away. I thought the place was a bit boring until reading some of the advice on here, so I'm all excited to go back


You're fortunate to have this option. Make use of it and learn from it.
Many times a would be keeper is lost if not captured the first time.
This why you want to read then put into practice as much as you can.
Build your knowledge, then your skills.





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Aperture is a bit counter intuitive in the sense that the lower the number the wider opened, the higher the number the more closed. Think of the aperture as like the iris of an eye. The lower (wider) the more light you're letting in. However the more blurred (think bokeh) the background. The higher the aperture the less light you let in but more of the picture is in frame/focus.

These pics are fantastic for self taught. I really like your editing style.
In the door handle picture it appears you're focused on the center on the handle rather than the knob. Makes the whole pic seem out of focus. The others are great but would work on composition.
You're definitely a natural.




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By reading the manual you will learn a lot about your cam. Canon prints pretty descent manuals.
By reading in depth cam reviews you can learn more.

AP mode is most useful for action shooting.
Using it for low light stills is screwing up the images needlessly.
If shooting near wide open you also lose your depth of field, bad if this isn't your goal.

Most lens aren't their sharpest wide open, one exception is the Cannon 70-200 f/2.8 L which is sharpest at f/2.8, it's a beautiful freak.
Generally most lens are sharpest around f/5.6 but each lense is unique with its own characteristics:
http://www.slrgear...ws/index.php/cat/2

Consider shooting RAW images if you aren't already.
Pros; up to 3 f/stops more exposure/WB correction and full post editing cam picture options.
Cons; more editing time, RAWs take up much more memory space on card. Take longer for the cam to process which is only an issue if using in high burst frame mode like for action shots.



Definitely noted. I ONLY shoot RAW, and luckily I love editing. I'm going to spend most of the time there today playing with the aperture. I feel like that may be the best way for me to get a better understanding of it. That's if I can peel myself away from this site... I can't believe I just found this community... It's addicting!




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Definitely noted. I ONLY shoot RAW, and luckily I love editing. I'm going to spend most of the time there today playing with the aperture. I feel like that may be the best way for me to get a better understanding of it. That's if I can peel myself away from this site... I can't believe I just found this community... It's addicting!


Generally f/5.6-8.0 are the most useful ranges but again it depends on the lense, the shooting conditions, and your desired outcome.
With the 50 f/1.2 I used it wide open at night for street shooting.
Given care selecting the subject/framing, very good people images were possible.
For buildings I generally wouldn't go below f/5.6 though because the lose of DOF and sharpness is tremendous.

Don't be afraid to dial up the ISO setting to stay at your desired aperture/exposure settings.
Know what your cam's native ISO setting is and never shot below it unless brightness demands it.
Most native ISO's are 100 but not all.
Shooting below the native setting will degrade the image. Shooting at 400 will have little impact and depending on the cam/post processing you can go much, much higher.

Your goal is the best image possible with the given conditions/limitations.
It's all about trade offs and understanding your equipment's limitations/strengths.




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Aperture is a bit counter intuitive in the sense that the lower the number the wider opened, the higher the number the more closed. Think of the aperture as like the iris of an eye. The lower (wider) the more light you're letting in. However the more blurred (think bokeh) the background. The higher the aperture the less light you let in but more of the picture is in frame/focus.

These pics are fantastic for self taught. I really like your editing style.
In the door handle picture it appears you're focused on the center on the handle rather than the knob. Makes the whole pic seem out of focus. The others are great but would work on composition.
You're definitely a natural.


AH!! I can't believe I didn't see your comment!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! What's really funny is, YOU'RE DEAD ON with the door handle! At the time, I was using my T6, which really isn't a good excuse, but it's POF is really limited. I remember, after I took it and looked at the image on the screen, "meh, I think it worked." NOPE! Sooooooo, when I went back today, I realized that I didn't even HAVE a macro lens, OR a wide angle lens back then! So, I nailed the handle this time, WITH the rule of thirds as blackhawk had pointed out.
But, honestly, THANK YOU for the kind words. This is my passion, and I only want to do better, and compliments like yours are absolutely priceless




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AH!! I can't believe I didn't see your comment!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! What's really funny is, YOU'RE DEAD ON with the door handle! At the time, I was using my T6, which really isn't a good excuse, but it's POF is really limited. I remember, after I took it and looked at the image on the screen, "meh, I think it worked." NOPE! Sooooooo, when I went back today, I realized that I didn't even HAVE a macro lens, OR a wide angle lens back then! So, I nailed the handle this time, WITH the rule of thirds as blackhawk had pointed out.
But, honestly, THANK YOU for the kind words. This is my passion, and I only want to do better, and compliments like yours are absolutely priceless



My pleasure!!!
And I'm actually using the same model and im glad you made that comment because I have the same issue! I get the shot, it looks good, then in post the focusing is off.
Glad you were able to nail the shot! And I agree, rules of 3 are fun and has definitely improved my photos.

Here's something I did when I started out (I was obsessed with depth and bokeh as that seemed to be the cool thing on instagram).
I mainly post knives on there so I'd place a knife with a cool background set the camera on manual at 100 iso, f1.8 and then adjust the shutter till I got the exposure as close to the middle as possible then focused on the knife. What I got was a clear knife with a cool blurred background.
Then I'd increase the aperture and adjust the shutter to see the subtle difference as the background came more into focus.
If at any point it's too dark and you're having to go too low on the shutter, pump up the iso and or use a tripod with a timer (timer will reduce any shake from pressing the shutter button cause with the t6 you can't use a wireless shutter control 🙁).
When not using a tripod I try and keep the shutter above 80 ish to reduce shake. Ideally 125 shutter or higher, f1.8 to 5 and iso 100 to 400 is where I try to capture shots. Anything else and it's out of my league for the time being.
Anyways, sorry for rambling... I really enjoy photography as well lol.
I look forward to seeing your future posts! 😊




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For fun, here's some f1.8 shots as examples. The iso was at 100 and the shutter was wherever it needed to be to get the right exposure.

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Then I'd increase the aperture and adjust the shutter to see the subtle difference as the background came more into focus.



WOAH!!!!!!!! I seriously think you just cracked my aperture code!!!! That makes sense to me! The T6 is ACTUALLY a great camera, especially considering the cost. I went from there, to a 60D, and now I'm on an 80D, BUT I invested in better lenses first. To be honest, I could have stayed with the T6 out of it's ease of use.
One of my favorite things about the new setup though is the AF system. It's AWESOME. I only got the door so well today because I can dial in with more points than I THOUGHT were necessary, but after some critiques and input, they're REALLY useful!
I LOVE that bottom knife shot! After what you said above about the aperture, I can actually SEE it. THANK YOU for simplifying it like that.




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The 50L wide open at f/1.2, ISO 2000, 1/750@sec, in ambient light of a group of bangers posing spontaneously.
The 50L's superb flare resistance makes shots like this possible. There's been minimum post editing done to it.
I had a few seconds to dial it in and line it up. It was a handheld shot.





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The 50L wide open at f/1.2, ISO 2000, 1/750@sec, in ambient light of a group of bangers posing spontaneously.
The 50L's superb flare resistance makes shots like this possible. There's been minimum post editing done to it.
I had a few seconds to dial it in and line it up. It was a handheld shot.

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SERIOUSLY!? THAT WAS DONE WITH A 2000 ISO????? I'm running out the door right now, but I think I need to overcome my fear of ISO noise... That's an amazing shot...




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The 50L wide open at f/1.2, ISO 2000, 1/750@sec, in ambient light of a group of bangers posing spontaneously.
The 50L's superb flare resistance makes shots like this possible. There's been minimum post editing done to it.
I had a few seconds to dial it in and line it up. It was a handheld shot.

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I second that! I see absolutely no noise in that pic. I'm amazed.




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WOAH!!!!!!!! I seriously think you just cracked my aperture code!!!! That makes sense to me! The T6 is ACTUALLY a great camera, especially considering the cost. I went from there, to a 60D, and now I'm on an 80D, BUT I invested in better lenses first. To be honest, I could have stayed with the T6 out of it's ease of use.
One of my favorite things about the new setup though is the AF system. It's AWESOME. I only got the door so well today because I can dial in with more points than I THOUGHT were necessary, but after some critiques and input, they're REALLY useful!
I LOVE that bottom knife shot! After what you said above about the aperture, I can actually SEE it. THANK YOU for simplifying it like that.


Ahaha, I love simplifying stuff! Hope it helps!
I totally agree, especially the price point, would hurt alot less having an accident with it. Damn, 80 and 60d! Those are tanks. And yeah, once you upgrade and start using the features etc you wonder what you did without them lol.
Thanks for the kind words!




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