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Aran
Location: Kansas City Gender: Male Total Likes: 1844 likes
Huh. I guess covid made me a trendsetter.
| | | Re: Ever Found Anything Extremely Valuable? < Reply # 42 on 1/19/2018 3:50 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by jdogtobin As An urban explorer I total relate to the whole "see but dont take thing" but it seems like anything that is of value ends up in the wrong hands and at this point if we did take something if we value it and treasure it is it a big deal? thoughts please...
| Leave it where you found it. There are several reasons why you shouldn't take stuff. Taking stuff from a location...
- ...denies other explorers the opportunity to see it
- ...turns a civil trespassing violation into a felony theft/burglary charge
- ...gives urbex a bad reputation, making things harder for other explorers
- ...ruins your credibility with other explorers, making them less likely to explore and share information with you
- ...makes it harder to learn the history of the location, by removing clues
- ...makes it near impossible to talk your way out of trouble if caught
And these are just the strictly logical reasons why taking from locations is a bad idea. It does't even take into account whether it violates your moral code. I personally believe taking souvenirs, no matter how small, violates the ethics of exploring and thus goes against my moral code, but I recognize that not everyone shares my morals. What I'm trying to say here is, leave stuff where you found it. It's better in the long run to take nothing but pictures, same as with the wilderness. Part of exploring is accepting a certain moral duty to protect these locations, and stealing from them is the polar opposite of that.
| "Sorry, I didn't know I'm not supposed to be here," he said, knowing full well he wasn't supposed to be there. |
| jeepdave
Location: Anderson, SC Gender: Male Total Likes: 1303 likes
It's also a gun.
| | | Re: Ever Found Anything Extremely Valuable? < Reply # 45 on 1/20/2018 12:48 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Aran
Leave it where you found it. There are several reasons why you shouldn't take stuff. Taking stuff from a location...
- ...denies other explorers the opportunity to see it
- ...turns a civil trespassing violation into a felony theft/burglary charge
- ...gives urbex a bad reputation, making things harder for other explorers
- ...ruins your credibility with other explorers, making them less likely to explore and share information with you
- ...makes it harder to learn the history of the location, by removing clues
- ...makes it near impossible to talk your way out of trouble if caught
And these are just the strictly logical reasons why taking from locations is a bad idea. It does't even take into account whether it violates your moral code. I personally believe taking souvenirs, no matter how small, violates the ethics of exploring and thus goes against my moral code, but I recognize that not everyone shares my morals. What I'm trying to say here is, leave stuff where you found it. It's better in the long run to take nothing but pictures, same as with the wilderness. Part of exploring is accepting a certain moral duty to protect these locations, and stealing from them is the polar opposite of that.
| I agree with all these points but make one exception. If a site is under active demo or scheduled for demo within days or weeks the likelihood of items of both historical and monetary value being lost to the rubble is extremely high. Especially things such as old photos, documents, obscure or outdated equipment or devices. I will tend to feel much less guilty removing items in this scenario. I've even (site not disclosed) taken boxes of items from a section of a site that was active demo to a section of site for preservation to save them in the past. It was just old photos and documents but I figured that would be the best outcome and last I checked they were still at their new home. However if it was a total demo they would have come home and been either given away to friends who like that kind of stuff or left like Easter eggs at other locations. Man I need to get back into the game. I miss exploring.
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