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UER Forum > Rookie Forum > Rookie tips wanted for exploring recently abandoned train yard. (Viewed 1789 times)
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Rookie in Indiana reporting for duty. There's a large train yard near me that has been closed/abandoned for about 2.5 months. Planning a trip in the next few days but was looking for a few tips on anything to look out for.

I'm guessing cameras on the main buildings would be my main concern. Are there typically cameras even around the perimeter? Are the cameras likely to still be monitored 2 months after the shutdown of the yard? I'm guessing the daytime would be the better choice for exploring as it looks worse for you if caught at night, would that be accurate?

Anything else to look out for?




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< Reply # 1 on 8/20/2017 6:15 PM >
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invest some time and watch it, I mean set up on it from a distance and watch

with binoculars

watch the entrances observe any activity coming or going if any activity even exists

do some research do railroads actually abandon an entire yard? if so theres bound to be news stories, displaced employees, real estate ads or something relevant

scan the poles and fences if theres cameras they'd be normal size to big size ones not the little pinhole spy jobbies this is also a good way to plan your approach (and potential exits)

investing time to watch is not as instantly gratifying as someone you don't know giving you nebulous answers on the Internet that MAY or may not apply to that location but it will pay off either way:

a. you don't get caught because you spotted the Union Pacific security patrol

b. you have a successful infiltration because the Union Pacific security patrol only shows up once a day and now you know when




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< Reply # 2 on 8/20/2017 6:23 PM >
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What ^2Xplorations^ said and...

You'll need to scope it out.
RR Police have more authority than state police.
Do not fuck around with them if present.
It can be almost impossible to tell if a cam system is active without close inspection.
No power probably no active cams.

Your biggest hazard isn't any of that; it's the steel.
Be careful not to trip and fall especially on the rails.
Steel is completely unforgiving.
If you end up running on or across the rails your steps better be perfectly planted and clear the rail/tie every stride.

Best to -carefully- look the site over in the daylight on public land before your mission... a good pair of binoculars help.

Bring flashlights if you plan to go in. Bring enough water for 12 hours.
Predawn it and observe. If no activity, scout perimeter cams, wear a bush hat, if any doubt as if the cam's are active pull back.
Best to locate the junction point for the cam data lines or the security office with cam monitors. Are they active? Remember they could have cams perched high up and far away (3000+ feet); you only see the cam's they want you to see.
If it's an active smart cam system you are fucked!
As soon as you breach their perimeter zone they will tract you from cam to cam and capture your images.
Fixed position cams are the only kind used for Smartcam networks; panning cams are never used unless kept in a locked permanent position.
These systems can be hard to spot.

Don't get injured.
Don't get busted.



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Solid advice, many thanks.

The closing of the train yard was mentioned in some short news stories around early June so I'm good there. I'll probably do some recon on both sides of the yard to get a feel, both on the street-side and the back-side where there are woods and access roads. Looks like I'll be needing to invest in some good binos.




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The best way to observe is choose a good vantage point, watch and stay still.

Movement is easy to spot... scope out the perimeter after you have watch for a while.
Smart security guards already have their favorite observation points.
The worst kind are the ones that sit still and watch, and relocate at random times.




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Despite how this one looked it was relatively easy for an active yard. I didn't attempt to get out in midst of the hump yard where moving trains were present along with RR workers, I drove around and parked in some adjacent woods, waited until it was all clear and scampered zigging and zagging across about 200yds of open ground, junk vehicles and rail yard clutter to get into the main building.

For those that have never seen me scamper youre really missing something special!

http://www.uer.ca/...ow.asp?locid=24246




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Ive tried to do a couple of active rail yards but theyre like airports, not easy. This is Zacha Junction in Dallas, its fenced except for the tracks coming in and out 24hr 7day security patrols, cameras on poles, and lots of train traffic. I guess they think somebody might walk off with one of those shipping containers. Or get squashed by a remote control switch engine or something.






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Posted by liquidocelot
Rookie in Indiana reporting for duty. There's a large train yard near me that has been closed/abandoned for about 2.5 months. Planning a trip in the next few days but was looking for a few tips on anything to look out for.

I'm guessing cameras on the main buildings would be my main concern. Are there typically cameras even around the perimeter? Are the cameras likely to still be monitored 2 months after the shutdown of the yard? I'm guessing the daytime would be the better choice for exploring as it looks worse for you if caught at night, would that be accurate?

Anything else to look out for?


if this is the same one i am also thinking of - it is a well known spot. be careful!




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if this is the same one i am also thinking of - it is a well known spot. be careful!


Active rail yards are dangerous;
getting arrested isn't the worst that can happen.
Be careful and then some.




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