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Explorers need to take precautions and do thorough tick checks after being anywhere ticks may be encountered.
These tick borne illnesses can be life altering or ending.

A new deadly one has emerged and is taking names and brains already.
Meet the Powassan virus:

http://www.today.c...es-experts-t110892

About 10% of POWV encephalitis cases are fatal and half the survivors have permanent symptoms that affect their brain.[10] Powassan virus has been responsible for 49 deaths in the U.S. between 2000–2011.[

[url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powassan_virus]https://en.m.wikip...iki/Powassan_ virus[/url]



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Another POWV article.
This is nasty stuff.
Once bitten by a POWV infected tick, baby you got it.
Keep ticks from reaching your flesh whenever possible especially in high risk areas.
It's vector range extends into southern Canada too
https://www.cdc.go...an/statistics.html




Other ones like RMSF are deadly if not treated promptly. https://www.cdc.gov/rmsf/

Always see a doctor ASAP if you develop a fever*, headache*
and especially if accompanied with any kind of rash.
If you get any one of these it will not be worth whatever you did to get it.



*Strong indicators of a bacterial infection.






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Ticks are not joke guys. If you are in a tick area consider long pants,socks,and selves.DDT bug spray works but is not to be depended on. Better to be roasting hot then stuck with Lyme or POWV.




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Ticks are not joke guys. If you are in a tick area consider long pants,socks,and selves.DDT bug spray works but is not to be depended on. Better to be roasting hot then stuck with Lyme or POWV.


High top laced up boots; put your pant legs in them, then spray the bug juice on the boot tops and pant legs.
Look at them frequently to spot any free rides...




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Two were hospitalized in Maine last month by POWV:
http://bangordaily...in-midcoast-maine/

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RMSF can kill you.
You need to find these buggers the day they get on you.
Doctors screwed up here. This death was preventable.
Prompt treatment is mandatory for RMSF!!!
Always tell the doctor if you could have had a possible exposure if running a fever, and especially a rash.

http://wishtv.com/...ossible-tick-bite/




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High top laced up boots; put your pant legs in them, then spray the bug juice on the boot tops and pant legs.
Look at them frequently to spot any free rides...


Yup. Basically treat it like going into an area with asbestos dust. (Regular ticks are just getting up here to AK) Good boots, pants inside the boots, then I personally do a couple wraps of progaff around the top of the boots to secure that gap. I'll put on a pair of thin atlas gloves, tape around the wrists/jacket, and have gone upto and including gaffing my hood to the face shield on my respirator.

Granted, these days I just throw on a tyvek decon suit and call it good. Got enough health issues that I don't want to worry about lymes or the like.




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Yup. Basically treat it like going into an area with asbestos dust. (Regular ticks are just getting up here to AK) Good boots, pants inside the boots, then I personally do a couple wraps of progaff around the top of the boots to secure that gap. I'll put on a pair of thin atlas gloves, tape around the wrists/jacket, and have gone upto and including gaffing my hood to the face shield on my respirator.

Granted, these days I just throw on a tyvek decon suit and call it good. Got enough health issues that I don't want to worry about lymes or the like.


Sounds like a good plan.
Always do a thorough tick S&D afterwards.
Look -everywhere- and put clothes in a sealed bag until you can nuke them in a dryer.
It seems like a lot of trouble to do every day until you're laying there feeling like a freight train ran you over
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RMSF is much worse.

The tick that nailed me I got in the front lawn walking less than 50 feet. Never saw or knew about it until I found the bulls eye under my arm pit.
Some times you feel them before you see them unless you're really looking; they are very small.
Bedbugs have the potential to transmit many of the tick diseases.

Headache, fever, sore throat see a doctor ASAP.
If a skin rash is present other than a bulls eye rash with the above symptoms, see a doctor that day or go to the ER;
RMSF is a medical emergency.
If you have the bulls eye rash, you have Lyme disease.




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If all this isn't bad enough add this to the can of worms; enter the Lone Star tick and a life alternating allergy to red meat.
Multiple bites can have an cumulative effect. Great.

https://en.m.wikip.../Alpha-gal_allergy

https://www.wired....-may-be-spreading/




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If all this isn't bad enough, a new deadly tick borne virus, the Bourbon Virus has been observed in humans in the US.

http://www.foxnews...k-borne-virus.html




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This is why I always carry a bottle of tick repellent with me. Lyme disease is pretty hard to get rid of, and you definitely don't want to contract the aforementioned nasties. I always wear long pants no matter where I'm going or how hot it is, and I always have one of my long sleeved flannels with me in my bag. Remember, ticks aren't only in the grass, but they're also in the trees above you. I recently went out in the woods to explore a 1800s cemetery, and got a bunch of ticks on me. I thankfully didn't get bit, but I now carry the repellent at all times after that.




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This is why I always carry a bottle of tick repellent with me. Lyme disease is pretty hard to get rid of, and you definitely don't want to contract the aforementioned nasties. I always wear long pants no matter where I'm going or how hot it is, and I always have one of my long sleeved flannels with me in my bag. Remember, ticks aren't only in the grass, but they're also in the trees above you. I recently went out in the woods to explore a 1800s cemetery, and got a bunch of ticks on me. I thankfully didn't get bit, but I now carry the repellent at all times after that.


Yes the will indeed drop from trees to land on you. Be it accidental/random or intentional.
I've also seen them on the ends of twigs reaching out... creepy.


No matter how well you cover up do a complete tick search each time or every night if any ticks are present in your yard.
With long hair this is very hard to do. The smallest ones are the most likely to carry lyme.




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It's a good thing I read this feed, I was aware of these ticks, but didn't think they were that bad. I first started seeing some guys in there videos here in Canada getting eaten alive by them cause they were wearing shorts. Even since then I started to ware long pants to avoid getting attacked by them, but this thing about them making you sick or the possibility of dying. Shit! Thanks for the info!



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Good god that reaching out from the branches is fucking disgusting. Man I shudder at the thought.




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Fleas, especially in Arizona and NM.
They can transmit Bubonic plague if infected.
If infected this is a medical emergency.
Wearing high top boots and long pants helps.

Plague infected fleas have been recently found in N AZ locations.
http://abcnews.go..../story?id=49177920




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Some areas swarm with ticks. One mountain I hiked in Virginia had about ten thousand in one clearing. Needless to say, get out if you're in a place like that. Lyme is nothing if you catch it in time, a pain but recoverable. I know plenty of people who've had it. Other diseases, though... not so much.

Find a tick on you, get it off properly. From the CDC:


Use fine-tipped tweezers to grasp the tick as close to the skin's surface as possible.
Pull upward with steady, even pressure. Don't twist or jerk the tick; this can cause the mouth-parts to break off and remain in the skin. If this happens, remove the mouth-parts with tweezers. If you are unable to remove the mouth easily with clean tweezers, leave it alone and let the skin heal.
After removing the tick, thoroughly clean the bite area and your hands with rubbing alcohol, an iodine scrub, or soap and water.
Dispose of a live tick by submersing it in alcohol, placing it in a sealed bag/container, wrapping it tightly in tape, or flushing it down the toilet. Never crush a tick with your fingers.








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Some areas swarm with ticks. One mountain I hiked in Virginia had about ten thousand in one clearing. Needless to say, get out if you're in a place like that. Lyme is nothing if you catch it in time, a pain but recoverable. I know plenty of people who've had it. Other diseases, though... not so much.





I begged to differ on Lyme; it is a big deal regardless how fast you treat it.
First round antibiotics are not always effective.
I personally know two people who died prematurely after having Lyme, one permanently cripple by Lyme disease and at least 3 more that were sick for months.
To spite early treatment it took me about 4 months to fully recover. A month or more on high doses on antibiotics alone can screw you up.
I developed an intolerance to yellow corn and whey isolate as a direct result of this infection/treatment.
Hands down the worst bacterial infection I ever had in my life.

Complications from an infection are something that can happen even if you do everything right.
In this case they can be life altering.
Prevention is the best medicine.




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My tick horror story.

It was 1984 or 85 I was fly fishing with my wife on the Nolan river a tributary of the Brazos in Texas. I had hunted, fished, snorkeled, camped and rock climbed here since about 1973.

As I waded out into a deep pool to cast around some rocks I felt some crawling sensation right about where my underwear (briefs) line was. I was just wearing the briefs and cut offs and wading shoes. I scratched at it and thought nothing more about it. then on the other thigh same thing an itchy crawly feeling and being waist deep in the water I could not see a thing. Well shit I grew up in the outdoors from the time I was a toddler, Ive had chiggers, ticks fleas all manner and sorts of bug bites and stings but nothing could prepare me for what I was about to discover.

As I waded to shallower waters I spotted several ticks smaller than the head of a pin and they were heading north in a big hurry! Then another, then a couple more pretty soon I was bailing out of the river and trying to pic ticks off but they were coming faster than I could pick a tick. I was covered. At least my lower half. I yelled out to my wife and she started finding them too. She panicked tossed her rod down and went screaming for the bushes to start taking her jeans off. She was also covered.

Apparently we had walked right threw a nesting area in the brush and these infant ticks had gotten on our lower legs undetected. Then when we waded out into the water they tried to climb up using our legs as an escape route. Fortunately they stopped (most of them did) at our underwear line. Thank God for tight fitting Fruit of The Looms!

Too small to pull out these little bastards had started burying themselves in our skin and they were so small not much was left exposed to grab. I started scraping mine off with a razor sharp belt knife I carried and managed to not castrate myself. I gave my wife a safer scraper, a credit card (normally don't give these to the wife)

All the way home we kept finding more, being much more hairy in the legs than her I could not be sure I had gotten them all so once home I did something pretty dumb, I grabbed a bar of dog soap and hit the shower. Sargeants flea and tick soap as I recall it contained pyrethrins or permethrins or some other toxic shit. And it killed the Hell out of the last 2 or 3 dozen baby ticks I had on me. It also made me sicker than the proverbial dog it was meant for. I was dizzy sort of nauseous my vison was effected too. I felt pretty rough for the rest of the day but no permanent bwainz dumages I cud notis...






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My tick horror story.

It was 1984 or 85 I was fly fishing with my wife on the Nolan river a tributary of the Brazos in Texas. I had hunted, fished, snorkeled, camped and rock climbed here since about 1973.

As I waded out into a deep pool to cast around some rocks I felt some crawling sensation right about where my underwear (briefs) line was. I was just wearing the briefs and cut offs and wading shoes. I scratched at it and thought nothing more about it. then on the other thigh same thing an itchy crawly feeling and being waist deep in the water I could not see a thing. Well shit I grew up in the outdoors from the time I was a toddler, Ive had chiggers, ticks fleas all manner and sorts of bug bites and stings but nothing could prepare me for what I was about to discover.

As I waded to shallower waters I spotted several ticks smaller than the head of a pin and they were heading north in a big hurry! Then another, then a couple more pretty soon I was bailing out of the river and trying to pic ticks off but they were coming faster than I could pick a tick. I was covered. At least my lower half. I yelled out to my wife and she started finding them too. She panicked tossed her rod down and went screaming for the bushes to start taking her jeans off. She was also covered.

Apparently we had walked right threw a nesting area in the brush and these infant ticks had gotten on our lower legs undetected. Then when we waded out into the water they tried to climb up using our legs as an escape route. Fortunately they stopped (most of them did) at our underwear line. Thank God for tight fitting Fruit of The Looms!

Too small to pull out these little bastards had started burying themselves in our skin and they were so small not much was left exposed to grab. I started scraping mine off with a razor sharp belt knife I carried and managed to not castrate myself. I gave my wife a safer scraper, a credit card (normally don't give these to the wife)

All the way home we kept finding more, being much more hairy in the legs than her I could not be sure I had gotten them all so once home I did something pretty dumb, I grabbed a bar of dog soap and hit the shower. Sargeants flea and tick soap as I recall it contained pyrethrins or permethrins or some other toxic shit. And it killed the Hell out of the last 2 or 3 dozen baby ticks I had on me. It also made me sicker than the proverbial dog it was meant for. I was dizzy sort of nauseous my vison was effected too. I felt pretty rough for the rest of the day but no permanent bwainz dumages I cud notis...





^2X bump, this is a worse case scenario^

The nymphs are the most dangerous carriers of Lyme as they can be all be coming off an infected mouse.
Got mice in your house?
One tick nest on one mouse could unleash hordes of these midget vampires in the house.
Up to 500 hatch out. They are very small; you usually notice them by feeling rather than see them. bitches.

Pyrethrin poisoning is not fun. Gave me charly horse leg cramps so bad one time I was afraid I would be able to move. Pure agony.
They abated rapidly, thankfully.
There are times I wish I had a 1 pound bottle of DDT powder from the 60s...




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I begged to differ on Lyme; it is a big deal regardless how fast you treat it.
First round antibiotics are not always effective.
I personally know two people who died prematurely after having Lyme, one permanently cripple by Lyme disease and at least 3 more that were sick for months.
To spite early treatment it took me about 4 months to fully recover. A month or more on high doses on antibiotics alone can screw you up.
I developed an intolerance to yellow corn and whey isolate as a direct result of this infection/treatment.
Hands down the worst bacterial infection I ever had in my life.

Complications from an infection are something that can happen even if you do everything right.
In this case they can be life altering.
Prevention is the best medicine.


Golly, I guess everyone I know was just really lucky then.




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